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The rose and the thorn (2013) Parents Guide: Is the book OK for kids?

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Two thieves want answers. Riyria is born. For more than a year, Royce Melborn has tried to forget Gwen DeLancy, the woman who saved him and his partner Hadrian Blackwater when all other doors were closed against them. Unable to stay away any longer, they return to Medford to a very different reception - she refuses to see them. Once more she is shielding them, this time from the powerful noble who abused her. She was right to suspect Royce wouldn't care about rank and privilege or fear any repercussions from reprisal. What she didn't… Sign up for the full guide

Adult • 2013 • 300 pages • High School

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This adult epic fantasy serves as a prequel to the Riyria Revelations, focusing on the dark origins of the partnership between Royce and Hadrian. It earns its 16+ rating due to intense gritty violence, including depictions of physical abuse and a protagonist driven by cold, lethal vengeance. Parents should note a significant plotline involving the assault and mistreatment of a woman, which motivates the central conflict and leads to… Sign up for the full guide

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Is The rose and the thorn appropriate for kids?

This adult epic fantasy serves as a prequel to the Riyria Revelations, focusing on the dark origins of the partnership between Royce and Hadrian. It earns its 16+ rating due to intense gritty violence, including depictions of physical abuse and a protagonist driven by cold… Read more — free account

Content severity in The rose and the thorn

Sex Strong 5/10
Violence Intense 8/10
Language Moderate 4/10
Substances Moderate 3/10
Themes Strong 5/10

What happens in The rose and the thorn, moment by moment

  1. p. 12 🔥 Mature Themes 3/10
  2. p. 28 ⚔ Violence & Gore 2/10
  3. p. 42 ⚔ Violence & Gore 6/10
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Sex and nudity in The rose and the thorn

While there are no explicit sex scenes, the plot revolves around the physical and sexual abuse Gwen suffers at the hands of a noble, specifically Baron Manning. These acts are largely off-page but have disturbing on-page aftermaths and descriptions of her injuries, including bruising and emotional trauma. The power dynamic is coercive, with Gwen sacrificing her safety to protect the other women in her brothel. Conversations between characters confirm the sexual nature of the 'arrangement' Manning demands. The…

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Violence and gore in The rose and the thorn

The book contains graphic descriptions of combat and murder, establishing the gritty tone of the Riyria prequels. Royce Melborn is depicted as a ruthless assassin; scenes include various stabbings, throat-slitting, and clinical descriptions of lethal force. A particularly grim sequence involves a noble being hunted and executed in a basement, highlighting Royce's capacity for cruelty. Characters are frequently placed in life-threatening situations where physical harm is depicted with blood and visceral detail. The…

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Language in The rose and the thorn

Moderate profanity is used throughout the novel, including terms like 'damn,' 'hell,' 'bastard,' 'ass,' and 'shite.' The frequency is consistent with adult fantasy and the rough lifestyles of thieves and mercenaries, but it lacks the pervasive 'f-bombs' found in some modern grimdark novels. Insults are often directed at Royce’s elven heritage, using derogatory descriptors to highlight his social standing. The dialogue reflects the hard-boiled nature of the protagonists without relying on excessive vulgarity. Most…

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Drugs, alcohol, and smoking in The rose and the thorn

Alcohol consumption is common in taverns and social settings like the Rose and Thorn. Characters frequently drink ale, wine, and cider, and there are references to individuals using alcohol to cope with trauma, stress, or the cold. Hadrian and Royce are shown spending time in drinking establishments where heavy consumption is normalized for the setting. There are no depictions of illegal narcotic use or magical drug equivalents. The focus remains on historical-style social drinking and the occasional night of…

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Mature themes in The rose and the thorn

The primary themes are vengeance, the corrupting nature of power, and loyalty. It explores the dark side of justice and the moral compromises made in the name of protecting someone one loves, particularly through Royce's actions. Loyalty is tested as Hadrian and Royce navigate their burgeoning partnership amidst a backdrop of political corruption and personal vendettas. The story also examines the social marginalization of elves and the systemic cruelty of the nobility towards commoners. The heavy emotional weight…

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Is The rose and the thorn appropriate for kids?

Bontent's parent guide suggests The rose and the thorn is best for ages 16+. This adult epic fantasy serves as a prequel to the Riyria Revelations, focusing on the dark origins of the partnership between Royce and Hadrian. It earns its 16+ rating due to intense gritty violence, including…

What age rating does The rose and the thorn have?

Books don't carry official age ratings. The rose and the thorn is shelved by its publisher as Adult, but that's a marketing category, not a content rating — Bontent's own review of what's actually on the page puts it at ages 16+.

What reading level is The rose and the thorn?

The rose and the thorn is 300 pages and its reading level is High School. Bontent recommends it for ages 16+.

What is The rose and the thorn about?

This adult epic fantasy serves as a prequel to the Riyria Revelations, focusing on the dark origins of the partnership between Royce and Hadrian. It earns its 16+ rating due to intense gritty violence, including depictions of physical abuse and a protagonist driven by cold, lethal vengeance. Parents should note a…

Is there sex or nudity in The rose and the thorn?

While there are no explicit sex scenes, the plot revolves around the physical and sexual abuse Gwen suffers at the hands of a noble, specifically Baron Manning. These acts are largely off-page but have disturbing on-page aftermaths and descriptions of her…

How violent is The rose and the thorn?

The book contains graphic descriptions of combat and murder, establishing the gritty tone of the Riyria prequels. Royce Melborn is depicted as a ruthless assassin; scenes include various stabbings, throat-slitting, and clinical descriptions of lethal force. A…

Is the language in The rose and the thorn appropriate for kids?

Moderate profanity is used throughout the novel, including terms like 'damn,' 'hell,' 'bastard,' 'ass,' and 'shite.' The frequency is consistent with adult fantasy and the rough lifestyles of thieves and mercenaries, but it lacks the pervasive 'f-bombs' found…

Are drugs, alcohol, or smoking depicted in The rose and the thorn?

Alcohol consumption is common in taverns and social settings like the Rose and Thorn. Characters frequently drink ale, wine, and cider, and there are references to individuals using alcohol to cope with trauma, stress, or the cold. Hadrian and Royce are shown…

What mature themes appear in The rose and the thorn?

The primary themes are vengeance, the corrupting nature of power, and loyalty. It explores the dark side of justice and the moral compromises made in the name of protecting someone one loves, particularly through Royce's actions. Loyalty is tested as Hadrian…

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